Curse

Spiritz · Dec 16, 2009, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Lindseys already stated sf will be hit but untill anet decides on exact type of nerf no1 can say what will happen - nothing new for anet to nerf a skill and within the hour alter the nerf again.
e/a gets nerfed then as stated terratanks will return - no matter what build anet manages to nerf theres always others to use , it makes us versatile.
I recall when mystic regen got nerfed - 1/2 the 55 monks cried and said 55 monks are dead and the other half just changed to a diff healing skill and got on with things.
The biggest mistake a player in gw can make and im sure many will agree with me here - Depending on 1 chr or build to farm with.If you have multiple farming builds you have a wide choice of fallbacks - even if not a farmer you`d do the same.

Monks can do other farms than 55 or 600/smite - they are bonders and im sure theres old team builds around still that have bonder monks running.
I agree to nerf 600 a few skill changes are needed but those skills are also used without the 600/smite situation - PS is used a lot outside of that team and to change that would hit a lot of professions and builds - SF is used by a handful of non sin primary builds and a few sin builds which to me is less impact than loads of builds dying.

athariel · Dec 16, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22

hey guys, what are you using E/A shadowform for? I have never seen an E/A shadowform after the duration nerf, only sins.

oh and E/Me is faster for raptors than E/A

Gift3d · Dec 17, 2009, 12:11 AM // 00:11

this build is tricky and sometimes for no apparent reason you seem to just instantly eat shit. i'm talkin like tanking one group for a minute, then same group out of nowhere you're just dead, no interrupts or nothin. i've played with the build a little bit, not being much of a farmer, but i'm sure it has to do with some type of order of enchants or something of the likes.

Not quite as versatile as SF and harder to play indefinitely, but it's always been the next best thing.

silavor · Dec 17, 2009, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

this build is tricky and sometimes for no apparent reason you seem to just instantly eat shit. i'm talkin like tanking one group for a minute, then same group out of nowhere you're just dead, no interrupts or nothin. i've played with the build a little bit, not being much of a farmer, but i'm sure it has to do with some type of order of enchants or something of the likes.

Not quite as versatile as SF and harder to play indefinitely, but it's always been the next best thing.

If that's a 330 ele, then yes, it's the order of the enchantments that matters. PS always needs to be cast before SA. You need to have prot spirit reduce damage to 33, then have Stoneflesh Aura remove 33 damage. If it's the other way around, you'll usually die in ~10 hits in HM.

Lord Dagon · Dec 17, 2009, 12:59 AM // 00:59

ok.. im mad about my english being dissed... im english.. i just can't spell xD. And i have no clue if its BS or not. I just heard some ppl talking about it in my allaince chat the other day when i was working on my survior.... So thats why i can't prove/disprove it.. and again.. thats why i added "you can beleive it or not..." so ;p and yes i know im in high school and cant type so lay off me xD

fog_of_redoubt · Dec 17, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by itachimizu

ok.. im mad about my english being dissed... im english.. i just can't spell xD. And i have no clue if its BS or not. I just heard some ppl talking about it in my allaince chat the other day when i was working on my survior.... So thats why i can't prove/disprove it.. and again.. thats why i added "you can beleive it or not..." so ;p and yes i know im in high school and cant type so lay off me xD

Start your sentences with CAPITALS, that would be a very good start for improving your messages. Then end your sentences with a single period (instead of "..."), then a space and begin the next sentence (starting with a CAPITAL of course). Try using complete sentences also instead of partial sentences.

Try your next message utilizing these simple concepts and you will have a much more readable message.

Mustache Mayhem · Dec 17, 2009, 01:31 AM // 01:31

a 2 monk combo would would work fine for getting to dhumm.. protective bond at 18 on a 135 with spellbreaker (this would be perma with bu)- spirit bond used for the skele spike.. the other monk life bond/holy aura/bath spirit/mending

you could also stick signets on that monk for more damage with something like keystone to recharge them

times won't be stellar but it'd def be under an hour.. at dhumm the team would have to have the terra take over.. oh well just thinking.. I gtg to class running late =p

Gun Pierson · Dec 17, 2009, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by mrvrod

That's just way too fast! I hope they nerf 600 next.

Yeah thanks man and you prolly can't even do the run in HM. If so show me, I'm waiting in DoA. Foundry in 45 minutes is the same as playing balanced if you know how to setup the team.

Also the people that can efficiently and effective play 600 in DoA HM are a very small part of the whole playerbase. Not to mention the gamble in the second room with the spawns and corner trick.

I hope they don't nerf 600, just because some people think 45 minutes is too fast. If it was 7 minutes I would understand. And not every run is always 45 minutes. You die a few times and you're over the hour in no time.

The nerf squad can shut up now, it's getting ridiculous. Want serious play, play PvP.

mrvrod · Dec 17, 2009, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Yeah thanks man and you prolly can't even do the run in HM. If so show me, I'm waiting in DoA. Foundry in 45 minutes is the same as playing balanced if you know how to setup the team.

Also the people that can efficiently and effective play 600 in DoA HM are a very small part of the whole playerbase. Not to mention the gamble in the second room with the spawns and corner trick.

I hope they don't nerf 600, just because some people think 45 minutes is too fast. If it was 7 minutes I would understand. And not every run is always 45 minutes. You die a few times and you're over the hour in no time.

The nerf squad can shut up now, it's getting ridiculous. Want serious play, play PvP.

Learn sarcasm.

Gun Pierson · Dec 17, 2009, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by mrvrod

Learn sarcasm.

My mistake then sorry, I normally like a good sarcastic post but I didn't get that one.

FoxBat · Dec 17, 2009, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Am I crazy or wasn't the last statement we had, was that the SF nerf was waiting on them re-evaluating and function changing alot of farming skills? In that case it's just going to be a matter of "which one did they miss"... if any.

Really you just nuke all the spell-invincibility skills... and soloing elite zones gets much tricker.

Windf0rce · Dec 17, 2009, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by SomeSayImFamous

Fyi. For them to nerf 600 they need to blow up 4 skills and also they wont nerf 600, Monks cant do any other farm other then 55, Sins can still use mobius, and farm mobs, Eles will still do mistform or terra, and I could go on forever but seriously they will not nerf 600, they would have nerf 3-4 highly useable skills in pve. so

The 600/Smite build can be hit by changing the funcionality of certain maintained enchantments, specially Holy Wrath and Retribution. They really don't see much use outside of farming and could easily be changed into offensive spells (I'd lol if they'd make Holy Wrath a mini RoJ), IMHO changing funcionality into something usable is better than Smiter's Booning them.

I don't think they would hit staple skills such as Protective Spirit, Spirit Bond or Shield of Absorption (that already had its casting time stupidly/unfairly nerfed because of farming). It would be really naive if they did.

Lord Dagon · Dec 17, 2009, 09:37 PM // 21:37

i use the "...." to show that ur talking about something and u just drift off... like that when u are talking about stuff and u just stop.. thats what i go for

. And i dont really care for taking the time to use capital leters tyvm..... well have fun w/ nerfing SF and 600stuff.. so glad i never got addicted to those.. i have options

Crippie its Tom · Dec 17, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56

the E/A SF stuff dosnt even work that well anymore ever since the SF dmg nerf.